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My wife was raised as a Jehovah’s Witness in the 1980’s and ’90’s. Her mother was very strict about it. She would pull my wife and her siblings out of school during ANY days that celebrated any pagan or “worldly” holidays, including Halloween, Christmas, Easter, and Valentine’s day. No costume parties, birthday parties, Christmas presents, holiday cookies, valentine’s day cards, etc., etc. As could be expected in a school environment, she eventually got labeled as an outsider, being different or weird. She never had any true friends outside of her family.
Because my wife didn’t want our children to go what she went through, when our children were old enough to begin school, she decided she wanted to home school our kids. I hated the idea from the beginning, but she was passionate about it and I eventually relented. So my eldest son and daughter were homeschooled for a couple of years, my son up until 2nd grade and my daughter up until the 1st grade. She finally decided to let them go because the kids wanted to go. Plus, and props to you that stumble across this and homeschool your kids, it is a lot of work.
The main thing I want to discuss is why would one want to home school? When you do some searches there are really three main reasons I can find: Religion, Violence/drugs, and the parents belief they can teach better than the teachers.
I can teach my kids better than teachers in the public schools
In some schools and situations this may be true. I live in one of the poorest cities in the US, which means low property values, not as much property taxes collected (although we do have one of the highest property taxes percentage wise, because of the low property values), thus good teachers are often going to go elsewhere for more money. I live in a border city next to Mexico, so a large percentage of the incoming kindergarten students do not even speak English, which increases the teaching burden even more. Yet so far, all of the teachers my two kids have had the past three years have been very good at both teaching and communicating what my wife and I must do to help our children progress. In three years, my son had one C on his first report card upon making the transition from home-school to public school, and after that has had nothing but A’s and B’s. My daughter has never had lower than a B at this point. My wife, an ardent home school proponent 5 years ago, now thinks it was a big mistake to hold our kids back the first three years at home.
If someone lives in an area where the student to teacher ratio is low, the school district they are in is not up to par, and they have a stay at home parent that has the ability and desire to teach their kids, I can see some benefit. But I have a feeling those scenarios are a low percentage of the actual home schoolers.
Too Much Violence and Drugs in Schools
Once again, there are probably schools in some areas of the country where this is factual. Overall the vast majority of schools are safe. Are there issues with peer pressure, drugs and violence? Yes. They were there 25 years ago when I was in school. In my opinion you can coddle a child too much, and when they get older they are going to be naive to the real world. Because guess what, there are drugs and violence out there too. If they are not prepared to say “No” to peer pressure and the like at 12-17 years of age, what do you think is going to happen when they go to college or get a job after high school?
Religion
My wife’s reasons were the feared prejudice our kids may receive as part of their religion, as JW’s beliefs are not even the normal Christian beliefs, so they would not fit in. There is some validity there, but whether our kids went to a public school or not they are/were eventually going to get treated differently anyway if they go this route spiritually. Is it better or worse to receive these discrimination when younger so you get used to them or when you are older and ill-prepared to go into the real world? I do not have the answer, but I can say my wife made what I think is a great decision and was not nearly as demanding on our kids as her mother was to her. She does not pull out the kids on Christmas parties or Valentine’s day. She uses me as the scapegoat but I know that she actually feels she was left out of a lot because of the way she was raised.
The other religious based reason is probably the most common reason many families home school. They want their kids exposed to the biblical teachings rather than what US schools teach. Don’t want those teachers bringing up the fact we evolved from apes and the earth is billions of years old now do we? But more important than that is kids interacting with other kids from different backgrounds and religions and realizing that what their parents have taught them may not be 100% true. An ambitious child may just start reading a little and learning some things on their own.
If the top two reasons were the REAL reasons some parents home schooled then I would understand more. These are the top three reasons people say they home school, yet 91% of the people home schooled are religious, and more than twice as many home schooler classify themselves as evangelical Christians compared to the general population. 72% of home schoolers polled cited “to provide religious or moral instruction” as an important reason for it as well. This tells me that the main reason is really religion.
Many of the JW’s my wife knows home school and the congregation encourages it. I cannot speak for other religions, but going to sites like this one you can tell they like the idea of home schooling also. The answer to why the encouraged home schooling is obvious. JW’s, for example, are forbidden to even read apostate material and many of their articles hint that continuing education is overrated. People who get educated tend to start to question things, dont you know?
Since home schooling has only recently started this big boom, it is difficult to find any long term repercussions at this point. As far as the education part of it goes, they are probably getting just as good an education. The websites promoting home schooling will of course point out that kids that are home schooled get higher scores on the national tests. This is true but you have to account for the fact that all of the kids home schooled both want to be educated and have parents that want them to be educated. A lot of scores on national tests are from kids that could not be home schooled even if they wanted to as they are in single parent homes or double working parents, who basically use school as a baby sitter. If you compared home schooled kids to kids that have parents actively involved in their public education I bet the public school kids are equal if not better than the home schooled ones. Not to mention I believe they will be better prepared for the real world once they have to go into it.



October 26, 2007 at 2:32 pm
I think you have been drinking to much national teacher’s association coolaid! Are you really a teacher? You didnt even get into homeschooling. If you used higher end materials, the computer and online resources you would discover teaching is not rocket science. The goal of the public education system of 2007 is not to educate children as much as it is to socialize them to their agenda. If you think otherwise then research what is going on in California schools.
I would put my children (ages 9, 14, 16 and 18) against any person of more than average performance in public schools in any area (socially skills too!) except maybe smoking, drinking, cursing and such as that.
The reason children are so better prepared for “the real world” as you put it is because they have totally lost their innocence, simplicity and desire to please and submit to authority. They adapt to the world because THEY ARE THEN JUST LIKE THE WORLD!
October 26, 2007 at 4:01 pm
Hi Brad.
You know, I have been sitting on this post for awhile. It has had many different rewrites, and in retrospect, it didn’t come out exactly the way I wanted it.
I am not a teacher. I am a network administrator. My wife homeschooled our kids for 3 years. If you (or your wife, whoever is doing the homeschooling) have the ability and time home schooling is not hard, but it does take time, patience, and diligence. I do not think our schools systems are perfect, but I blame a lot of that on the lack of interest from many parents. Parents that are actively involved with their kids will do well whether they are in public, private, or home school. As I mentioned in my post, props to anyone that does homeschool and does have successful children. It is a difficult task, but rewarding task and I can speak from experience. That being said, I am glad my children are back in public schools.
I actually agree with a post that is currently up at Atheist Revolution discussing the current problems with education in America. The main point that I wanted to make in my post that I only touched on was the fact that a large percentage of people home school their children to keep the religious indoctrination going.
October 26, 2007 at 4:08 pm
oh, and the correct spelling of the brand is Koolaid. Coming from the Jim Jones murder suicide. Although I think they used Flavr Aid, but most people use the cliche of Koolaid.
October 26, 2007 at 10:54 pm
Brad says: I would put my children (ages 9, 14, 16 and 18) against any person of more than average performance in public schools in any area (socially skills too!) except maybe smoking, drinking, cursing and such as that.
Well, it’s a damn good thing you shielded your kids from smoking, drinking, cursing, and “such as that” (are you referring to — shudder! — sex?). Too bad they won’t know when to use an adjective instead of an adverb (it should be “social skills,” not “socially skills”) or the difference between “to” and “too,” or decent grammar and punctuation (you’ve made too many errors to list in this short space). And I assume, from your overall excellence in English, that they’ve learned very little about real science and math, unless you or your wife happen to be qualified to teach earth science, biology, chemistry, physics, algebra, geometry, trigonometry, logic, and pre-calc. Do you teach them real American history or have you shoveled the “America is a Christian nation” lie down their poor young throats? And what about world history? Do you know anything about that? Or maybe it’s just part of California’s socializing agenda, eh? And a foreign language? How are your kids doing at that? (Or maybe you don’t think you kids need to speak any godless lingo, huh?)
I’m not defending the public schools, mind you. They could stand a good shaking-up because they make plenty of mistakes. I’ll bet you’ve made hundreds more, though. But thank God your children will grow up to be just as ignorant as you.
October 27, 2007 at 8:17 am
Exterminator, I envy your bluntness.
October 27, 2007 at 12:54 pm
Cragar: Well, I guess not only was I born without the “god” gene, but I seem to be missing the “tact” gene, too.
October 27, 2007 at 3:06 pm
During my travels (and travails) around the country I have had many (way too many) encounters with christers and christianists.
One of my earlier ones was a biology lab partner in high school. Her father was the pastor at a fundamentalist christianist (biblical law for all) church which dropped out of the Southern Baptist Convention because they were too liberal. She needled me constantly in class because I am a Unitarian (also an agnostic leaning towards atheism) and have not been born again. One day I asked her, “What Bible does your church use?”
“Oh. We use The Bible.”
“Which translation?”
“No translation. We use the real Bible.”
“Wow,” I said. “I had no idea you could read latin, aramaic, koine greek and hebrew.”
She freaked. She (in the middle of class) screamed at me for about five minutes. My poor teacher (this was his last year before retirement) tried to stop her. I sat with an innocent and confused look on my face. He sent her to the office and she was suspended for a week. Had a baby nine months later.
Another one was more recent. I was staffing a road block at a wildland fire in Idaho. A vehicle drove up with husband, wife, and cute little girl in the back reading a book. Dad asks, “Can I drive through.”
“No, sir.” And then I began to explain that the road was closed because of a 200,000 acre forest fire.
He interrupted me to ask, “Have you been saved?”
I ignored him (hey, I’m on the Federal Clock, I’ll be happy to discuss your invisible man in the sky when I’m off duty (I did not say this, but I thought it)) and continued. The little girl in back put her book down. It had a picture of Aryan Jesus and, across the top, said something like ’second grade reader.’ Obviously from a christianist home-school curriculum. She says, “Daddy, he’s going to burn in Hell forever, isn’t he?”
I paused, looked at her, and went back to telling Dad how to get around the closure area. The kid pipes up again. “Daddy, we can drive through the fire ’cause Jesus will protect us.”
Eventually Dad turned the car around and left. My day did not get any better. The next guy called me a jack-booted fascist when he found out his eld-hunting grounds were closed.
The point of these two stories is that 20 or 30 years ago, most radical right wing christianists still went to public school and were exposed to different ideas and different people. Today, kids like that little girl in Idaho are so isolated from any differing thoughts that they are truly scary. How different would the girl I partnered with in freshman biology have been if she had been home-schooled?
My wife and I considered home schooling our kids at one point (more because of an undiagnosed developmental disability which the school said did not exist (we solved the problem without even going to a lawyer)) and saw some of the lesson plans available. Its worth looking at some of the stuff that passes for education among christianists. Scary.
Sorry for the long post. Telling long, involved stories is an occupational hazard in my job. If its too long, feel free to delete.
October 29, 2007 at 3:57 pm
The point of these two stories is that 20 or 30 years ago, most radical right wing christianists still went to public school and were exposed to different ideas and different people. Today, kids like that little girl in Idaho are so isolated from any differing thoughts that they are truly scary. How different would the girl I partnered with in freshman biology have been if she had been home-schooled?
Billy, this was going to be the original main theme of my post, and I broke it down too much and didn’t keep my original focus.
My wife’s sister has home schooled her children. Her oldest is now 20, still living at home, and is a really nice guy but doesn’t have any direction with what he wants to do with his life except for serve his church (Jehovah’s Witnesses in case you haven’t read any of my backstory). I feel for the guy. He is 6′5″ and had sports been allowed with his parents he could be a starting lineman for some college football team (he likes football and used to come over to my house on Sundays after his church meetings and watch the games with me) and he could be getting a free education.
Her youngest son is almost two years older than my son (12) and should be in 7th grade right now. The sad thing is he sees my son and he wants to go to school but his parents won’t let him. He is old enough and smart enough to know he is not getting a quality education, nor making any friends as my son has, but he has no choice in the matter.
November 12, 2007 at 2:22 pm
Hi! I came across your blog via Black Sun Journal. I’ve read your and his posts/comments and just want to comment from the perspective of an atheist, libertarian homeschooler. I began homeschooling my 15 year old son when he entered first grade. He has ADHD, amongst other issues. With him, I chose to homeschool so he could get the one on one attention he needed and an environment that wasn’t so distracting. I began homeschooling my middle child, now 7, for other reasons. She is bright, free-spirited, creative and energetic. I know from many years of experiencing home edcuation first hand and being around all kinds of other homeschoolers, that it will be the best way for her to thrive and grow into an intelligent, critical, self-assured adult. I would like to see the entire compulsory, government school system scrapped and rethought. I also understand that there are many, many parents out there that cannot home school for many reasons that will make that impossible. But when people start saying that because there are religious homeschoolers out there teaching their children poorly that *all* of us should lose the right to that choice…I won’t stand for it. More than half of the states in the country have moderate to high levels of regulation regarding homeschooling. These states require things ranging from participating in standardized tests to full-blown curricula approval, portfolio assessments and home visits. This would address progress/content concerns while maintaining parental rights. However, you are still left with the state deciding when to teach what, and as we all know the state isn’t doing such a hot job with that in their own house. I want my kids to question authority. I want them to prepare for adult life by actual interaction with the real world. I instill a deep sense of skepticism in them….things that I don’t believe they get in public schools where conformity, age segregation and isolation is extremely important.
Besides, the kids that get the distorted teaching and worlview that comes from a religious family are still gonna get that outside of public school hours anyways, aren’t they? But if they were to lose the homeschooling option what society would see is a much greater attempt/success to conform the public system to their view and then we’re back to square one but in a much worse place.
November 15, 2007 at 5:58 pm
Hi Michelle, I read your comments the other day but have been on the road the past two weeks and wasn’t able to respond until now.
First, I think both blacksun and I mentioned this, but if a parent has the time and wherewithal to home school that the benefits can be very good. However I would venture to say that you are in the top percentage of the parents home schooling their children. Many are home schooling their kids just to keep the “bad” influences from their kids. And by bad, I don’t mean the normal things all parents deal with. They do not want their children exposed to other religions. They don’t want them to learn about evolution as it goes against the bible.
More than half of the states in the country have moderate to high levels of regulation regarding homeschooling. These states require things ranging from participating in standardized tests to full-blown curricula approval, portfolio assessments and home visits.
While this is true, it is still only half. And I can tell you in Texas it is not regulated at all. No tests, no meeting with teachers, nothing. If they would actually come up with some sort of mandatory laws in EVERY state, then we could be on to something. But as I mentioned on blacksun’s article, I know of two specific families that are giving a substandard education to their own kids. And at least one of these kids desperately wants to go to school, but the parents won’t let him. This brings on the argument that the children themselves have no choice in the matter. Much like the indoctrination of a child into a religion, coincidentally enough.
Overall, if every home schooled child was taught by a parent/teacher with your fervor we wouldn’t need this discussion
November 24, 2007 at 11:03 pm
Good points. I was homeschooled, and from experience, I know that I will not homeschool my kids. I want them to learn social skills and make friends. I lived in the country and was isolated growing up.
By the way, drop by my blog sometime, I debunk creationism/intelligent design;
http://aigbusted.blogspot.com
-Ryan
November 26, 2007 at 12:39 pm
Ryan–I started reading your blog. Good stuff! AIG always needs some needling!